If I had a penny for every time someone told me “My ex is too stubborn to contact me,” I’d be rich by now. Well, maybe not rich, but I’d have a jar full of pennies I wouldn’t know what to do with.
Everyone seems to think their ex is too stubborn, prideful, confident, and self-centered. But what I think is that that’s just how most people are. We’re set on our ways because we like to be right. I don’t know if it’s insecurity or an ego thing, but we tend to gossip and point fingers at others. Especially when we’re emotional and lack an understanding of the other person’s rationale for behaving the way he or she does.
The problem isn’t just that exes are too stubborn to admit to making a mistake. A much bigger problem is that they don’t even see they’ve made a mistake. They’re determined rationally and convinced emotionally that they have made the right decision and that their decision will benefit their health and their overall well-being.
It’s their lack of self-awareness and the ability to change their views, therefore, that prevent them from looking within themselves and saying, “Maybe I went too far. Maybe I could have done things differently.”
Oftentimes, their victim mentality is just too strong for them to reflect and grow in ways that would enable them to correct their mistakes.
So ultimately, it’s their inadequate self-growth that’s to blame. They haven’t done the work on themselves to outgrow their old selves and understand other people’s sides of the story. Maybe their upbringing has something to do with it, or perhaps it’s their bad dating experiences and beliefs that the world is out to get them.
I don’t know who or what makes them the way they are because everyone goes through different things in life. But what I do know is that each and every one of us is responsible for self-development. This includes engaging in occasional introspection, resolving our childhood issues, taking care of our mental/physical health, reflecting on our thoughts and behavior, improving our weaknesses, learning to love ourselves, controlling our unwanted emotions and behavior, and much much more.
People who don’t take themselves under the microscope often (or at all) tend to be stubborn, egoistic, impulsive, arrogant, or narcissistic even. How could they not be if they never learned to control their unhealthy emotions and the importance of caring for others?
Unfortunately, what our parents and society teach us is (at least to my awareness), not enough.
Some lessons are meant for us to learn ourselves through experiences. And more often than not, we learn them only when we want to or need to. In other words, we must feel a desire or need to engage in self-evaluation and become open-minded enough to admit fault and look for solutions.
I’ve mentioned this in other articles before, but unless people are self-aware and have done the work on themselves already, they tend to reflect only when they’re hurting. That’s because pain lowers their pride and convinces them it doesn’t matter who was right or wrong. There are more important issues to resolve. And those issues normally entail improving self-esteem, lowering anxiety, and becoming at peace with themselves.
The point I’m trying to make is that dumpers don’t have the drive to examine themselves. They are fueled by emotions of power such as anger, contempt, resentments, suffocation, pessimism, victimization and as a result, remain the way they are personality-wise.
They can’t grow because they lack the skills to handle their negative breakup emotions.
There are, of course, some dumpers who improve after the breakup, but those dumpers are normally more mature/self-aware and feel bad for hurting their ex and want to make things right.
So if you can’t stop thinking to yourself, “My ex is too stubborn to contact me,” keep in mind that stubbornness is the least of your ex’s problems. Your ex has bigger matters to overcome.
Matters such as:
- processing negative emotions
- self-reflecting
- comparing life before to life after the breakup
- getting hurt and/or finding actual reasons to contact you
If your ex fell out of love, your ex just doesn’t see a reason to get back in touch with you. He or she has other things to worry about and people to focus on. When those people and interests become boring or not good enough, that’s when your stubborn ex will contact you and try to get something from you.
In today’s post, we’ll discuss whether your ex is too stubborn to contact you and what your stubborn ex needs to contact you and get back with you.
My ex is too stubborn to contact me
If you still think that your ex is too stubborn to contact you, you need to understand the emotional state your ex is in. You need to know that your ex is going through the stages of a breakup for the dumper and that those stages could take him or her months to process.
Sometimes they take dumpers years or even decades because some dumpers need longer than others to become nostalgic and regretful. They need to date (oftentimes marry) and spend some time away from their ex. That’s how they can realize that they aren’t happy and that they used to be much happier when they were with their ex.
And this is something you have very little (if any) control over. You can improve your flaws and reasons your ex dumped you for, but if your ex doesn’t fail or find the motivation do the necessary internal work, your efforts will be in vain. At least when it comes to impressing your ex and getting back with your ex.
Of course, you’ll still learn and improve a lot, but it won’t be for your ex. It will be for yourself, your family, friends, random people you interact with, and your future partners.
Always remember that self-growth stops when your heart stops and that its purpose is not to be self-critical to the point where you blame yourself and refuse to accept yourself.
You just need to be broad-minded and have goals that contribute to others because such goals will promote your well-being in return.
What you give is what you get. So give a lot! Especially to people who appreciate you. Not everyone will give you as much as you give, but they don’t need to. You need to remember that you’re nice to others because you want to be nice to them—and not because you need them to give you things in return. That kind of niceness would be very conditional.
Anyway, a stubborn ex-partner is stubborn for a reason. He or she hasn’t resolved personal issues and needs to start resolving them. It may not happen today or next week because as I’ve mentioned, your ex is in control of the breakup and doesn’t feel the incentive to identity his/her flaws. But it might happen later when your ex encounters issues and feels down, depressed, or out of luck.
That’s when your ex could realize that his or her happiness depends on the things he or she does to change and improve.
Here are 7 reasons why your ex is too stubborn to contact you.
How to get my stubborn ex back?
If you’re set on winning your ex back by begging and pleading, sending love letters, and messaging your ex like a lunatic, I can tell you right now that you’ll never get through to your stubborn ex. You won’t be able to do it because your approach will be too direct and intrusive to affect your ex in ways that it needs to.
Exes (especially stubborn ones) don’t take kindly to persuasion tactics. They despise them because they feel unheard, misunderstood, and disrespected. Demands for attention only increase their frustrations and make them want to avoid their persistent ex even more.
So if you’re planning on saying or doing something to impress your ex, my advice is to give up on that idea right away. Forget about getting on your ex’s good side by using force because it’s never going to happen. You’ll have a much higher chance of making your ex respect you and want you back one day if you let your ex friend zone you and turn you into his or her errand boy.
Fortunately, you don’t need to befriend your ex or beg with your ex. There’s a third option that’s much safer for you and better for your ex. And that option is called the indefinite no contact rule. If you’re a regular of this blog, you’re probably already accustomed to this rule.
You know it gives your ex time to process the breakup at his or her comfortable pace and allows your ex to be free from responsibilities.
If you haven’t come across this rule yet, then don’t worry. It’s never too late to learn more about the rules of no contact and start implementing them.
The point of no contact is to improve your ex’s perception of you and recover from the breakup. It’s the only remedy for regaining lost power after the breakup and making your ex invest in you or leave you alone to heal.
You’re probably tired of reaching out to your ex and getting less than you deserve. You must feel like every time you reach out and show interest, your ex rejects you and seems to care less. This is because you went on the offensive and made your ex shut down. You didn’t consider your ex’s overwhelming need to distance himself or herself from you and instead tried your best to make your stubborn ex’s job to reach out easier on him/her.
Little did you know that “easy” isn’t how your ex wants it. Your ex can’t respect you and love you if there’s no challenge and need to put time and effort into the relationship. Your ex can only feel overprioritized, smothered, and think you’re out of his or her league.
So start following no contact if you haven’t already and focus on improving yourself. Hopefully, your ex will do the same.
Does no contact work on a stubborn man/woman?
No contact can work on stubborn (undeveloped), open-minded (developed), and people who dumped you for a good reason. The extent to which it works, however, is highly dependent on the dumpers’ luck (the experiences they have after the breakup), their perception of themselves (self-esteem), their perceptions of you (associations), and the quality of the relationship they had with you.
This means that no contact isn’t a surefire method for making your stubborn ex miss you and get back with you. But it is the best plan you’ve got because if time and space don’t make your ex realize your worth, nothing will. Convincing your ex certainly won’t let your ex rest and bring back old feelings for you.
The only thing that could work is lots of space because it could let your ex enjoy and experience life without you and figure out if you were the cause of his or her problems.
Of course, if your ex doesn’t return, this doesn’t necessarily mean that you were the problem. It could just mean that your ex’s opinion of you remained unchanged and that the people he or she dated after you were not much better or worse than you.
For your ex to come running, experiences (especially romantic ones) have to be much worse than the ones your ex had had with you.
So rest assured that no contact works when all the right conditions are met. And the right conditions will be met when something happens to your ex that makes your ex stop being stubborn.
That something could be:
- failure
- pain
- self-reflection
- curiosity
- remorse
So instead of resorting to dirty manipulation tricks that would hurt your ex, rely on psychology and time to make your stubborn ex want to communicate with you again. No contact will do the most it can in the shortest amount of time possible when you follow it intently and focus strongly on yourself?
Why?
Because you’ll keep moving on and appear as attractive as you possibly can.
How long does it take a stubborn man or woman to miss you?
Everyone wants to know how long it takes for an ex to miss you after the breakup. Does it take a month, a year, or ten years? The best answer I can give you is that it takes as long as it takes. No one can predict how no contact will affect your ex because it depends on so many factors.
But usually, time allows dumpers to distance themselves from their ex and makes them reach out about 3-4 months into the breakup. No two dumpers are alike, so it’s impossible to say that all stubborn exes reach out after a certain number of days.
Some exes also never reach out. There aren’t many of them, but they don’t change the way they see their ex and feel about their ex, so they find someone else to date.
One thing you mustn’t do though is assume that your ex will miss you the moment he or she contacts you. You need to understand that an ex could reach out for hundreds if not thousands of reasons. But he or she could only miss you for two.
- Because your ex misses you romantically.
- Or be because your ex misses you as a friend.
So try not to look forward to hearing from your ex. Breadcrumbs from your ex won’t give you the love you’re looking for. They’ll just make you analyze the breakup and increase your cravings for your ex.
Do you still think your ex is too stubborn to contact you and get back together with you? Why do you think your ex is that stubborn? I’m eager to hear your thoughts. Write them down below the article.
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Hi Zan,
My ex girlfriend broke up with me 8 weeks ago now.
We were together 4 and half years.
I broke no contact once a week for the first 4 weeks due to trying to get things back on track and feeling anxious and overwhelmed, which I think many men do in the initial stages of being broken up with. The following 3 weeks I chose to stay away and do no contact for myself to gain strength and clarity back for myself so I can grow and begin the journey of building myself back up and it’s working, I feel a lot better.
Yesterday however, we had a family bereavement which my ex did attend to pay respects. It was that she came and the family were happy to see her etc.
We said hello to each other in a civil way but throughout the day we kept our distance from each other and didn’t engage in any conversation.
It did bring back the feelings I have, I do still love her, she looked beautiful and looked well.
As the day progressed I noticed that she is giving a very ‘independent woman, strong and everything is cool and I’m handling my business’ vibe.
She has had to be strong and have these traits due to her upbringing and past relationship experiences, to the point she is stubborn and has a lot of pride.
When she left she did come over to me and gave me a kiss on the cheek and said goodbye which she didn’t have to do. Also her coming back to my family home after the service isn’t something she had to do if she didn’t want to, it was also clear to see she made a good job of trying to acknowledge I was in the room by not looking in my direction.
I can’t help but think she still does have feelings and love for our relationship still but her pride and ego seems to be firmly in control and she’s sticking to her guns, that’s the vibe took.
I got upset at the service and she told my family member how upsetting it was for her to see me upset and emotional and all she wanted to do was to be able to console me like should’ve done before whilst she we were together.
Today I’ve woken up feeling like I just have to keep focusing on myself, yesterday was a day filled with mixed feelings being in the room with my ex girlfriend who I still hold something for whilst grieving the loss of one of my best friends, my cousins girlfriend.
Going forward from here with my ex and this whole break up situation. Would be great to get your take on events and advice on what steps I can take, if any. Because I can’t lie, I still love this woman and I think something can be salvaged and fixed to rebuild a new foundation of the relationship.
Am I holding onto something for no reason or by what I’ve told you is there still a chance to rekindle something even though it’s been 8 weeks, no contact from her, I’m still blocked on everything and she’s still proving her point.
Look forward to hearing from you,
Much love,
Rakeem
Hi Rakeem.
You’re definitely still holding on to hope. Seeing her reignited your feelings and made you want her back urgently. Don’t overthink her actions. She was just being polite. If she felt the same way about you, she would have shown you love. You have to stay away from her and keep healing.
At the moment, she’s not thinking about being with you.
Sincerely,
Zan
Hello
I was in relationship of 5.5 years . She left me because she thinks that I don’t gave her attention and care. I begged and plead for 2 weeks so she blocked me . Then i go for no contact and still i am in no contact for 1.5 months after my last message. My friends told me that she lost weight and face looks depressed. And sometimes she say to her friends that she has moved on and happy . But few days ago when i see her on mutual freind post her face looks depressed but she try to be happy, she has one best friend , she spends all the time with her. But still she not contacting . And i want to tell one thing that she is stubborn and egoistic, she takes her image above everything. What should i do? She choose me for same caste and religion , she has seen future with me. No contact doesnt work on stubborn .? Plz help me . And there is no third person .
Hi Vivan.
You have to respect her decision and give her space. Stubborn or not, she has to contact you and apologize for leaving (even if you were neglectful). You may not want to do that, but it’s necessary for her respect for you. If she only wanted you to change, she would have come back when you pleaded.
Best regards,
Zan
I am almost certain my ex would never reach out to me again because she is stubborn. I can not recall one time in our relationship of 5 years that she would ever say she was sorry or admit fault. Stubbornness aside, after she dumped me, she moved to over an hour away from me and got with another guy who she was likely monkey branching with. She now lives minutes away from him, even though she claimed to move to be closer to her family, which she is. Since she moved, she got out of a house she wanted to be out of, living much closer to her family and quickly got a new relationship. Chances are she has no regret for anything she did to me. I am trying to realize I will never see or hear from her again, but I heart doesn’t want to let go no matter how terrible she was too me. I have tried to move on, but I cannot find anyone who even has a slight bit of interest in me. In the meantime, I have been working on myself and trying to be the best version of myself. I am trying to remain positive, but it is hard to do when you loved the life you had and the person you had it with.
Hi Ed.
You shouldn’t look for anyone to date right now. Your self-esteem may be low, but others can’t help you with it. You need to accept yourself and fall back in love with yourself first. When you do, you’ll have something to give to other people. Until then, remember your ex’s negative traits and stick to NC.
Best regards,
Zan
I recently was dating someone who was 14 years older than me (I am in my 30’s). We kind of hit it off quick and may have rushed things despite his need to take it slow. I am guilty as well but we agreed to hanging out 3-4 days a week. We did text everyday and talk and everything seemed great. We both agreed to taking it slow and having fun and for the most part we did but he would say things that were future planning and say and do the sweetest things in and out of public. One night (Monday) I told him some info about a past relationship that had nothing to do with my present day life but it was about how I moved in with the person to help his grieving mother as he worked half of the month. Something about it didn’t sit right with him and said it may or may not affect us negatively and ofcourse I was upset that it was my past and had nothing to do to relate to him. He agreed it wasn’t fair but said he would try to remember that it was almost a year prior and was important want us currently. We had plans the next day (Tuesday) in which he had to cancel because we did stay up late talking about it and he was exhausted from work. We chit chatted before bed and had agreed to hang on Thursday. We also had plans for Sunday at my parents also that he agreed to and the day before was talking about what he was bringing. The next day I received a good morning and I teased him about having no heart eyed emoji as usual and did a wink and then called him. He called back right away and basically said he didn’t think it was going to work out as he said he felt our relationship had an expiration date in the future because our goals did not align. His voice was emotionless and disengaged. I tried to state that my goals now could change as we are still new and if he would we could try spacing out how often we see each other but I noted he seemed like he made up his mind already and he replied “yep” and I got off of the phone. Two days later I called to see if we could still be friends and he agreeand also asked if he would like to hear my perspective to his reasons to split and he listened. I told him I was going out on a limb and stating that he ever wants to try again and I’m available I would be open to trying again but actually moving slower and going in with a clean slate. Heone admits he’s stubborn and wouldn’t have reached out as even if he did miss me as he is fine be al and so I told him I was taking away the anxiety from that so my question is is he going to come back? I miss him a lot. Our time was not long but the quality was there. I have been NC 4 days but I still believe he is too proud and stubborn to which he admits, to reach out.
Hi DS.
It’s not that he’s too stubborn, but that he’s lost feelings and decided to break up. Being with you at this moment doesn’t sound enticing to him. He remembers mostly the negative things that make the relationship difficult to work. For him to come back, he would need to stop thinking that way and perceive you as his one and only option.
You’ve got to stay in NC and detach. When you do, you’ll see things better and know whether he’s a good match for you. I can’t tell you if he’ll come back. Right now, he’s going through the dumper stages and doesn’t want to reconnect.
Kind regards,
Zan
Will no contact work on a stubborn man
Hi Jennifer.
It’s your best bet.
Zan
Where can I speak to Zan directly ?
Hi Jackie.
You can talk to me and other members of the community in our Discord channel.
Best regards,
Zan
Hi zan ,
I have been an avid reader of your posts. I have been going through a very bad break up . The guy with whom I have been in relationship for almost 5 years dumped over a small fight in August 2021. He left me saying that I am not a good partner and I have made his life miserable. I went into no contact after that , started working on myself . Then in December I again got in touch with him in hopes of reconciliation , we had a decent conversation . But I could feel that his image about me haven’t changed yet and he still sees me in a bad picture. He told me he doesn’t want to be in relationship with me at all but he is okay being friends with me. I politely turned down his offer saying that I won’t be comfortable with that. And he was continuously saying that I am good as a person but I am a bad partner. I am shocked to see how fastly he moved on , yet here I am still not completely over him.
Our relationship was decent one we both were very much in love but there was phase in the relationship where things got quite toxic between us . I feel it was my mistake that I was being very mean to him during that phase. But once I realised what went wrong on my side . I started to change and even he started to like those changes . Things started to get very good between us until the break up day.
I am shocked as how things have turned out. He is completely different person . He hates me like anything and blames me for his misery. I don’t know how to cope up with this feeling.
He’s going through the stages of a dumper:
https://magnetofsuccess.com/stages-of-break-up-dumper/
So with that it means , he is going to take even more time to process the break up ?
Payal,
I recommend you spread your research across the board, and try to listen/absorb a few more perspectives.
Zan has gone above and beyond in his blogging about the psychology of dumpers and dumpees, but the fact his writings intend to support or counsel hurt parties doesn’t mean that he’s Offering therapy/deep self work.
Your options are to contact a therapist, read or listen to YouTube videos (Alan Robarge speaks really well about Attachment Trauma which I suspect you’re holding on to), or contact Zan directly.
A dumper who’s hurting is akin to a diabetic craving sugar knowing fully well it’s poison for its system. Explore more about your own psychology and health than the decisions of an ex…
I hope you’ll find peace, but more than anything else, hope you’ll find yourself. Be well 🌻
I guess you are right . What happened has happened , it’s already in the past. I should better focus on me rather than holding on to my ex. With time everything will unfold on its own. Moreover no contact did gave me some insight about how he was as person and why things didn’t work out. So may be it’s better for me to deal with my own issues first.
Hi Payal.
Your ex may have dumped you over a small fight, but his opinion of you has changed a lot. He no longer considers you his life partner because he’s focusing on the negative aspects of the relationship. For that reason, you must get some space from him. You can’t heal if you continue to rely on him to heal your wounds.
There are 3 things you should do.
1)Get closure without his help. When you understand your ex’s behavior and why he left, you’ll have the answers to questions that are driving you insane.
2)Reflect on the relationship and the things you can improve. Growing from this painful experience is a must so you don’t repeat your mistakes in your next relationships.
3)Get over him. This will take time, but know that the longer it takes, the more internal work you’ll do. Especially if you focus on self-development.
Kind regards,
Zan
Thank you zan . I have realised what I have done wrong in this relationship and what has been stopping me from my self growth. I am now focussing on myself and have been doing well lately. I hope to recover from this phase completely and become a better person in future irrespective of what my ex hold opinion about me.
Hi Payal.
That’s the spirit. You should continue to learn more about yourself and grow regardless of whether you reconcile with your ex or not. The effort you put into yourself is going to stay with you for a lifetime.
Best regards,
Zan
Hi Zan, I am from south wales,uk and i read loads of advice you give but i was wondering if i could get some advice please. i was with my ex for 4 years,we got together on new years day after him chasing me for months and both of us being single for 7 years. anyway hes always been a drinker with the excuse of darts on monday, pool on wednesday, darts friday and out with his brother saturdays and any arguments were caused by him being drunk and not remembering anyway this new years, on our 4th anniversary, we went out and again he got drunk, again he caused an arguement and again he chucked me out but because he cant remember the night it is in his stubborn head that i was at fault. i forgot to mention that this bloke has no empathy, no compassion and no feeling. i havent had a txt or a call to talk things through, i have been totally ignored by him but as i didnt argue with him or cause the arguement i have had no closure and as i still love him with all my heart i know im waiting on a txt from him that is never going to come as he is content with his life of working and drinking. what can i do to make him miss me and realize that it was him at fault and not me. any advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks
Dear Zan,
Everything u wrote is true and i can say it from experience. after our first breakup my ex didnt reach out for 3 years , not even once, even tho we met several times by accident we never spoke , he ignored me completely( even tho it was him who cheated and left me for another girl). i never broke no contact and i was sure we would never speak again . until the day he texted me again , 3 years later after he broke up w the girl he left me for , and well that girl had the guts and called him out for all the things i ve never dared , hurt him and humiliated him quite badly . he ran back to me and i was shocked. he was begging my parents and me for month to take him back. unfourtanetely i did. we were together for years until he realized he prefers to marry a woman with better financial background ( since i was just a medical student) and he got tired of long distance ( after a month…) so he chose to leave me on the day of my mom’s surgery while i was in the hospital through text. he tried to come back several times since then, it was a terrible breakup even tho we never saw each other in person ever since the beginning of our long distance relationship. to be honest cause of my stockholm syndorme i guess i stil miss him since he was my first love and to be very honest i also ask sometimes willhe ever reach out again or he is too stubborn…ofc this sounds insane.just wanted to share my story and remind ppl that even tho it can be amazing and exciting when an ex comes back and tells u proves for a while u are his dreamgirl and future wife.. if they are still the same immature guy or girl deep down then dont give them a special pass just cause you have a history w them
xx
Hi Eri.
Thanks for sharing your story. It looks like your ex wasn’t happy in his relationship and got hurt badly by his ex-girlfriend. You didn’t even need to get your hands dirty because his ex got angry and taught him a lesson for refusing to grow up for so long. He had it coming.
I don’t think there was anything you could do to make him stay with you long-term. He probably came back only because he was in pain and needed healing. He hadn’t realized your true worth and found reasons for staying with you. That’s why he sort of used you and left again.
It’s okay to miss this guy because he was your first, Eri. But deep inside, you must know he’s not the guy for you. He left multiple times, which means he’s never going to respect you as much as he needs to.
Best regards,
Zan
Thank You Zan for your kind and honest answer. I still cant and wont understand how someone can lie and pretend for so long in a relationship, not just for me but in front of my family too. I feel deeply disrespected and humiliated.
But you are right, he used me and left again. Thank you for opening up my eyes.
Best regards
Hi Eri.
He came back for himself, so he didn’t have a reason to stay longer. But despite that, he should have been honest with you and let you go a long time ago.
Stay strong, Eri!
Zan
You would be rich just by me lol I asked multiple times “My ex is too stubborn to contact me”. And I assure you for that
I always happy to ready your new articles
Thank you always ❤️
I have heard that line so many times, Linda, so I thought it was time to share it with people.
Thanks for reading,
Zan
Most people don’t work on anything. They tend to move from person to person (usually someone easier) hoping they will get it right the next time and just like the definition of insanity… they keep doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different outcome. As Zan mentioned, don’t wait around for such people. Life’s way too short. I’ve done that mistake and boy do I feel like an idiot for having waste one iota of my time dwelling over someone that belongs to the streets (my ex was a cheating monkey brancher). Focus on yourself and make sure your life is as awesome as you can make it. There are plenty of high quality people that will come your way. It’s almost inevitable. Let karma deal with your ex. She/he doesn’t deserve anything more.
Truth
Hi DK.
Great advice. Most dumpers definitely don’t learn and improve much. They think they’re right and that they were wronged, so there’s no need to self-invest. Normally, they do things that seem fun and entertaining to them. That’s why they have to work on themselves later when they get dumped.
Best regards,
Zan
We have cohabited for 15 months since her being dumped by her affair partner,,she immediately went into an equally obsessive friendship with a gay guy and his associates and their lifestyle,dramas successes and failures,,,but she has been out less and less and for not as late,,,however her Psioratic Arthiritis and colder weather has played a part,but her attitude towards me has greatly improved,,I would love her to look at some of the material I have researched as I’m sure we could fix our marriage and eventually meet all each other’s needs.
Hi Terry.
Make sure she’s ready and has feelings for you before you try to get close to her.
Best,
Zan